HENRY VIII Claim
The Throne of England?
HOUSE OF PLANTAGENET ???
LINEAGE LINE 1?
JOHN OF GAUNT-1st Duke of Lancaster 3rd son of Edward III of England( Member of The House of Plantagenet). John was the only surviving son to reach adulthood. He was called Gaunt because he was born in Ghent, Belgium . Gaunt is the English rendering of Ghent.
.During his lifetime rumours circulated that he was actually the son of a Ghent butcher, perhaps because Edward III was not present at the birth and because he was not born in England, as a prince would be.
This story always drove him to fury.
HENRY VII & Elizabeth York
THE HOUSE OF TUDOR's Dubious Origins
Owen Tudor who was a Welsh courtier
( whom had a son by Henri VII of England)
Owen Tudor's son ,Edmund Tudor was created the 1st Earl of Richmond, being the half brother of Henry VII.
EDMOND TUDOR, along with his brother and father were taken into Henry's royal household. Henry was seemingly fond of his half brothers, and ennobled each of them with Edmund becoming Earl of Richmond on 15 December 1449 and Jasper, Earl of Pembroke on 23 November 1452.
As Earls, and recognised by court as the King's half brothers, Edmund and Jasper had unparalleled precedence over the other laypersons in court with the exception of the Dukes. They were each given lands.
After the death of Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, the royal line was at risk and considerations were made about the Tudor brothers inheriting the throne. There were concerns that while they had descended from the French royal line through Catherine, they had no blood relation to the English throne.
Both Edmund and Jasper were among a small group of personal advisers to the King by 1452, representing the only blood relations in court.
After a petition by the House of Commons of England, both Jasper and Edmund were recognised officially as legitimate half-brothers of the King and removed the statutory disabilities attributed with being considered Welsh. Throughout 1452 and 1453, they were given large monetary grants from the King, while Edmund was also given property in Westmorland and Lancashire. Edmund ran a profitable estate and invested in the wool industry based out of Boston, Lincolnshire. The King also granted him the medieval palace of Baynard's Castle, near to the Thames river in London.
Edmund was given the wardship of the nine-year-old Margaret Beaufort, Countess of Richmond and Derby, daughter of John Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset on 24 March 1453. She was the only heir of Beaufort and a kinswoman of the King. She had descended from the House of Lancaster through the eldest of John of Gaunt's bastard sons, John Beaufort.She had been previously married to John de la Pole, whose father, William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk had intended to seek the claim to the throne of her and any children should Henry fail to produce any heirs.William was murdered in 1450, and the marriage between Margaret and John was annulled in the first months of 1453 to enable her to be remarried to Edmund. It was this marriage on 1 November 1455 at Bletsoe Castle which enabled any offspring to lay claim to the English throne due to the inheritance of the Plantagenet blood through Margaret.
This accumulated in the War of The Roses thus,
A crisis emerged during the summer of 1453, as Henry fell ill lasting over 17 months, leaving him incommunicado and needing to be carried from place to place. Several parties sought to take power during this period, including Richard of York. Henry's wife, Margaret of Anjou, demanded to be declared Regent for the King, causing a division between her and the Tudor brothers. The War of The Roses ensued.
His successor was Arthur TUDOR Prince of Wales, son of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York.But after he died in a hunting accident his brother , the next oldest male Arthurs brother, Henry VIII was made Prince of Wales and eventually KIng of England. ( Elizabeth York daughter of Edward IV who was the SO CALLED 'SON' of Richard Plantagenet)
If this is an ILLEGITIMATE son with Elizabeth of York, daughter of Edward IV- (Documental evidence has come to light ( c2012) that Edward IV father was NOT his mother's husband Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, but an unnamed archer.)
This would make The Tudors have NO CLAIM on Plantagenet blood lines!
( NB: Our current Queen does have other lines to The Plantagenet's and The Scottish Kings.)
This is important because
ONLY through EMPRESS MATILDA, whom Richard Plantagenet descends, can be of the Royal Ancient English and Ancient Scottish bloodlines.
EMPRESS MATILDA,was The Holy Roman Empress, her lineage goes back to the first Kings of England & Alfred The Great, The first King of The English and the first kings of Scotland, Malcolm III King of The Scots & King Duncan of Scotland & King of Alba. She married Geoffrey Plantagenet, Duche of The Normans and she bore him HENRY Plantagenet soon to be King HENRY II of England & France II.
( see page Henry II Lineage)
Barbara Palmer, Duchess of Cleveland & Countess of Castlemaine, with her son Charles Fitzroy. One of Charles II mistresses.
And My Ancestors
Here I have compiled a list of
The illegitimate children of English Kings since William I to George IV (The Prince Regent.)
If you feel you have a claim to a Royal Bastard, feel free to contact me, so we can form a special list of their descendants.
This list is by all means, not complete and I shall add to it, once I have discovered more Royal Bastards.
Click on their names in red for more info on them
The Illegitimate children of English Kings
William I William The Conqueror, 'William The Bastard'
William The Conqueror was the illegitimate son of 'Robert The Devil' or the Magnificent, Duke of Normandy and his mistress Herleve, (sometimes called Arlette) the daughter of Fullbert, a tanner of Falaise
Gervais of Blois-Abbot of Westminster
Henry I had 21 to 25 bastards, including
1st Earl of Gloucester,My Ancestor
Maud FitzRoy(wife of Conan III, Duke of Brittany),
He had 2 illegitimate sons,
Geoffrey, Archbishop of York (1152 - 1212) -a woman named Ykenai. He is rumored to be the son of Rosamund Clifford as well
William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury (1176 - 1226) Mother:Ida de Tosny Countess of Norfolk-My Ancestor
Henry FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Richmond and Somerset(15 June 1519 – 23 July 1536),
As he had many mistresses, six other people are also put forward by historians as possibly being Henry's illegitimate children, including
the mercenary Thomas Stukley,
the poet Richard Edwardes
and two of Mary Boleyn's children, possibly:
Catherine Darnley (1681 - 1743) Mother :Catherine Sedley
James FitzJames (1670 - 1734) Mother:Arabella Churchill.
King William IV
Mother: Dorothea Jordan
Frederick FitzClarence (1799-1854)
Sophia FitzClarence (1796-1837)
George FitzClarence ( 1794-1842
Elizabeth FitzClarence ( 1801-1856 )
Adolphus FitzClarence (1802 – 1856)
Charles II fathered at least 20 illegitimate children, of which he acknowledged 14.
'When Nell Gwyn brought her first child to Charles, she told it,
'Come hither you little Bastard and speak to your father!'.
"Nay, Nellie, do not call the child such a name," said the king.
"Your majesty has given me no other name by which I may call him."
Charles then named the child "Beauclerk" and bestowed the title "Earl of Burford." '
The Illegitimate children
of Charles II
By Lucy Walter (c.1630–1658)
James Scott, 1st Duke of Monmouth (1649–1685).
By Elizabeth Boyle, Viscountess Shannon (1622–1680)
Charlotte FitzRoy, Countess of Yarmouth(1650–1684),
Catherine FitzCharles (born 1658; she either died young or became a nun at Dunkirk)
By Barbara Palmer, 1st Duchess of Cleveland(1641–1709)
Anne Lennard, Countess of Sussex(1661–1722). She may have been the daughter of Roger Palmer, but Charles accepted her.
Charles FitzRoy, 2nd Duke of Cleveland(1662–1730).
Charlotte Lee, Countess of Lichfield(1664–1717).
George FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Northumberland(1665–1716).
By Nell Gwyn(1650–1687)
Charles Beauclerk, 1st Duke of St Albans(1670–1726)
James, Lord Beauclerk (1671–1680)
By Louise de Kérouaille, Duchess of Portsmouth(1649–1734)
Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond and Lennox(1672–1723).
By Moll Davis, courtesan and actress of repute
Lady Mary Tudor(1673–1726)
There is a story about a previous Quaker marriage to a Hanna Lightfoot and children born to the couple. Including a son named GEORGE REX who became George Rex of Knysa, South Africa. He has descendants there and in Australia and New Zealand.
This 'line'of course would not be illegitimate line, ( to The Quakers)but it was consider so by the royals of the day and is also not recognised today; disclaimers claiming they have disproved it. Or covered it up maybe?
George Rex'es decendants are still trying to making their claims today-Craig Rex has enlisted help from DNA reasearch.
( The Prince Regent & Later King)
Rumoured to have several illegitimate children by various women.
Yet none noted for posterity yet!
William Longespee Earl of Salisbury
William Longespee was the issue from Henry II and his mistress Countess de Tosny, making him illegitimate.
But did you know that Henry II wife
Elenor of Aqutaine divorced her first husband The King of France to marry Henry II. Therefore one could say,
by The Roman Church, which ruled in such matters of the day, would consider ALL of Henry II children illegitimate!
First 'known'mistress of Henry VIII. 'Bessie Blount'' was mother of his FIRST BORN son, who was illegitimate Henry Fitzroy
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